That is right. Every iPhone needs to be
activated or registered. The question was
why? Does it not assume that every iPhone
buyer has access to both a computer as
well as Internet? How can it be 100% correct?

On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com> wrote:

You still have to use iTunes to activate it even if it is carrier unlocked
or bought from Apple or via web site - every apple product does, even the
WiFi iPad has to be activated in iTunes just the way Apple requires
registration of the devices...

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 15:41, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> If you buy from a carrier the answer is yes to both.
>
> But not if you buy without contract.
>
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> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 ]=-
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > When you get a new iPhone4, do you have
> > to always
> > 1. Put in a SIM, even if you want to use only
> > Wi-fi
> > 2. Register in itunes even if you do not
> > intend using Appstore.
> > If yes then why?
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My iPhone was activated right in the ATT store where I bought it. I could
use it just fine -- though w/o any of *my* content on it -- before I even
got home to sync it up w/ iTunes. Maybe that's why, as a new customer, I had
to pick the phone up at the ATT store rather than have it shipped to me at
home -- so they could activate it & set up my account. BTW I chose to get it
at ATT rather than Apple store because Apple didn't know anything about
Senior Voice Plans. Worth the $5/mo saving to make the extra stop to order
the phone (it was order-servers meltdown-day & I barely got my order in at
the store!) plus I could *walk* to the ATT store to get it.

If I hadn't had a computer or internet, I suppose I could have gone on w/o
anything new on the phone other than what I d/l using data-plan or a public
hot-spot; wouldn't have had any backup, of course, but the device would be
usable that way. Not sure about e-mail -- I use a regular email address I
already had, but does ATT/iPhone plan come with an email address too, if you
set it up? Perhaps if I hadn't already given them an email contact in the
ordering process they would have given me an ATT email. I keep meaning to
ask them about that! ATT did send me text messages (free -- I don't have a
texting plan).
bj

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From: "Pabitra" <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:27 AM
To: <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] New iPhone

> That is right. Every iPhone needs to be
> activated or registered. The question was
> why? Does it not assume that every iPhone
> buyer has access to both a computer as
> well as Internet? How can it be 100% correct?
>
> On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You still have to use iTunes to activate it even if it is carrier unlocked
> or bought from Apple or via web site - every apple product does, even the
> WiFi iPad has to be activated in iTunes just the way Apple requires
> registration of the devices...
>

Hi, my name is Pam and I fell in love with the iPhone from the moment I saw the first ad. Although there have been minor issues, my iPhone has been my lifeline. I'm a professional petsitter and it has made running my business so much easier.

Today I sat my iPhone on a shelf of my computer desk while I took care of some things. When I finished and picked it back up, I noticed it felt oily on the bottom. Further investigation found a bottle of incense solvent (a oil used to cut fragrance oils) had been left on the next shelf up and had developed a leak...right onto the phone below. I've had it laying so it could drain, but the screen is now very difficult to read. I don't know how, if at all, this will affect the iPhone other than making it hard to see what's on the screen. I synced right away to make sure everything is backed up off it just in case. It doesn't seem to be draining any more, but I'm afraid it's totally ruined. You can see air bubbles under the glass. I'm so not happy with myself.

This will be likely impossible to clear up because it is an oil substance. It's doubtful that Apple will replace it.

Your best bet is to buy a new iPhone.

Roger

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On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Pam <maltesemom1@aol.com> wrote:

> Hi, my name is Pam and I fell in love with the iPhone from the moment I saw the first ad. Although there have been minor issues, my iPhone has been my lifeline. I'm a professional petsitter and it has made running my business so much easier.
>
> Today I sat my iPhone on a shelf of my computer desk while I took care of some things. When I finished and picked it back up, I noticed it felt oily on the bottom. Further investigation found a bottle of incense solvent (a oil used to cut fragrance oils) had been left on the next shelf up and had developed a leak...right onto the phone below. I've had it laying so it could drain, but the screen is now very difficult to read. I don't know how, if at all, this will affect the iPhone other than making it hard to see what's on the screen. I synced right away to make sure everything is backed up off it just in case. It doesn't seem to be draining any more, but I'm afraid it's totally ruined. You can see air bubbles under the glass. I'm so not happy with myself.
>
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The visibility is getting worse. I can't afford to buy a new phone right now. I'm thinking I'll go back to my old iPhone until I can afford to get a new one. Luckily I still have every cell phone I've ever owned. Someday I will mount them in a shadow box.

I just put the SIM card back in the old one, right?

Pam

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Prokic Roger <rprokic@...> wrote:
>
> This will be likely impossible to clear up because it is an oil substance. It's doubtful that Apple will replace it.
>
> Your best bet is to buy a new iPhone.
>
> Roger
>

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Pam" <maltesemom1@...> wrote:
>
> The visibility is getting worse. I can't afford to buy a new phone right now. I'm thinking I'll go back to my old iPhone until I can afford to get a new one. Luckily I still have every cell phone I've ever owned. Someday I will mount them in a shadow box.
>

It's my understanding you can exchange a "bad" iPhone for a "good" iPhone of the same version for just $100.00. My son exchanged an iPhone 4 with broken glass for just $100.00 at the local Apple store.

> I just put the SIM card back in the old one, right?
>
If you have an iPhone 4 that SIM will not fit into an older iPhone.

Allan Aunkst wrote:

> Anyone use pocket weather that has the temp badge on the app icon?
> For some reason the temp is not accurate.
> Is there another app similar to this that has the temp as a badge?

Not familiar with that app in particular, but such things are only as
accurate as the data source they use, and the temp reading is highly
localization dependent.

For example, Berryweather tells me that it's 43 degrees outside, but
my outside thermometer tells me it's 45. Not much at the moment, but
at certain times of day there can be a 10 degree difference.

Berryweather uses Wunderground as their data source which uses a
network of NOAA and private weather reporting stations.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

I've been using pocket weather for a few weeks now and have noticed it is always a few degrees different than the weather channel app. I like it because I can get a close temperature without opening the weather app.

From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Kaplan
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:08 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Pocket weather

Allan Aunkst wrote:

> Anyone use pocket weather that has the temp badge on the app icon?
> For some reason the temp is not accurate.
> Is there another app similar to this that has the temp as a badge?

Not familiar with that app in particular, but such things are only as
accurate as the data source they use, and the temp reading is highly
localization dependent.

For example, Berryweather tells me that it's 43 degrees outside, but
my outside thermometer tells me it's 45. Not much at the moment, but
at certain times of day there can be a 10 degree difference.

Berryweather uses Wunderground as their data source which uses a
network of NOAA and private weather reporting stations.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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If it's always showing a current temp, then isn't it constantly "checking
in" with the weather station? Doesn't that use up both data-bytes and
battery power?

I just fire up the weatherbug app when I want the info, and I've got it set
with several stations so I can check what it's like where I'm going as well
as where I am.
bj

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From: "Tara Payne" <hijump1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:30 AM
To: <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [apple-iphone] Pocket weather

> I've been using pocket weather for a few weeks now and have noticed it is
> always a few degrees different than the weather channel app. I like it
> because I can get a close temperature without opening the weather app.
>

N.A. Nada wrote:

> Defeat the purpose of a SIM card, yes. Violate? Violate what? There is
> no law that is violated?

Violate the industry accepted standards for the technology. To be
clear, I'm asking if AT&T's actions here are such, not stating that
they are.

> Locking GSM hardware to a service provider, defeats the purpose of the
> SIM card, but it is done. But if you are going to get hardware at
> subsidized prices, then that is what you will get. What upsets me is
> that there is no option to purchase the hardware at unsubsidized retail
> and then get a discount on the service. Can you say greed?

That logic does make sense, because it's the service more than the
hardware that they are selling. They lock YOU in with the contract
and its early termination fee. The ETF is there when you buy
equipment at the subsidized rate, and gets prorated after a period of
time. The service companies sell the hardware at a loss and make it
up with the service rates.

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Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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When I opened an email. I can't deleted, only when is closed.
Any thought
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

"Only two of these will ever be made, so don't worry: if you buy one, the
chances of bumping into someone who has the exact same phone at a party are
quite slim."

WRONG. If you can afford one of these, then the circle of people of like
mind and like taste would be rather small, so the chances of running into
the other person who shelled out for one of these things are probably pretty
high.

Rev. Billy D. Strayhorn

First United Methodist Church

Glen Rose, Texas

254.897.2572

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Thanks for everyone's input on this. I think I will get 3G on it whenever I
take the plunge. I think I will wait until the new model comes out in
January though. There are going to be a lot of places selling the iPad now
too, so the price of them might get a little more competitive I would think.
In the meantime, I will try to sell that 300.00 Kindle!

Shellie

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:47 PM, EC <e.canteen@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> So glad I have the wifi+3G model, I'm in new York city and wireless access
> is by no means universal.
> Did you hear that Verizon's going to be selling the iPad in 2 weeks.
>
>
>

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Get it, you won't be disappointed.

Shellie Turcanik wrote:

> January though. There are going to be a lot of places selling the iPad now
> too, so the price of them might get a little more competitive I would think.

Don't count on a price war between stores.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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I was watching an iPhone ad and I noticed someone highlighting text in an email (I think). Do any of you have highlighting as an option when you select text? I have an iPhone 4.

Thanks!
Robin

I know that you can highlight text in books that you read - either through the
iBook application or other applications which allow it. When you normally
select text, there is a choice for highlighting where you are able to do so.

You cannot highlight texts.

Sharon H.

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From: RobinM <mccuerob@yahoo.com>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 4:03:13 PM
Subject: [apple-iphone] Highlighting?

I was watching an iPhone ad and I noticed someone highlighting text in an email
(I think). Do any of you have highlighting as an option when you select text? I
have an iPhone 4.

Thanks!
Robin

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