What prevents anyone from buying unlocked
iPhone 4 and using Nextel voice and data
connection?

On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:41 AM, N1JMM1_GMAIL <n1jmm1@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.

Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I hold
it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
find a sweet spot.

While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
nice to have the iphone on Nextel.

I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
alternative solutions.

Thanks
-Jim-

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T-Mobile and Cingular use GSM, while Sprint and Verizon Wireless use CDMA.
Nextel uses another technology called iDEN,

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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>
> What prevents anyone from buying unlocked
> iPhone 4 and using Nextel voice and data
> connection?
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:41 AM, N1JMM1_GMAIL <n1jmm1@gmail.com<n1jmm1%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
>
> Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I hold
> it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
> enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
> find a sweet spot.
>
> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
> the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
>
> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
> alternative solutions.
>
> Thanks
> -Jim-
>
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>
>

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Thanks. I was not aware of that.

On Oct 13, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Brent <flapdoodle@gmail.com> wrote:

T-Mobile and Cingular use GSM, while Sprint and Verizon Wireless use CDMA.
Nextel uses another technology called iDEN,

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

What prevents anyone from buying unlocked
iPhone 4 and using Nextel voice and data
connection?

On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:41 AM, N1JMM1_GMAIL <n1jmm1@gmail.com<n1jmm1%40gmail.com>>
wrote:

Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.

Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I hold
it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
find a sweet spot.

While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
nice to have the iphone on Nextel.

I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
alternative solutions.

Thanks
-Jim-

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Are you talking about lack of signal strength at your home?

I bought an AT&T microcell last summer and have been really happy with
it. I could only get 1 bar or nothing, usually, at my house.
Now I have 5 bars constantly and never have a dropped call here.

They gave me a $100 rebate which I used to pay down my bill, so the
microcell cost $100 less than the advertised price. Don't know
whether the rebate is still available, though.

Patti

On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:11 PM, N1JMM1_GMAIL wrote:

> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
>
> Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I
> hold
> it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
> enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
> find a sweet spot.
>
> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other
> AT&T
> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search
> for
> the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent
> coverage
> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
>
> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking
> for
> alternative solutions.
>
> Thanks
> -Jim-
>
>

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I looked at that in the store when I got the phone, seems to me it
requires an internet connection and they still charge you minutes & or
data when you use it and yet you have to supply the internet to it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/3gmicrocell/ Also calls will not
transfer to it, you can start calls on it and transfer to a cell tower
but not from cell tower to it. It obviously has some limitations and you
don't get any cost savings using it.

Since this is at my work place, connecting to the company network is not
allowed so this is not an option.

Thanks
-Jim-

On 10/13/2010 8:46 AM, Patti Robertson wrote:
> Are you talking about lack of signal strength at your home?
>
> I bought an AT&T microcell last summer and have been really happy with
> it. I could only get 1 bar or nothing, usually, at my house.
> Now I have 5 bars constantly and never have a dropped call here.
>
> They gave me a $100 rebate which I used to pay down my bill, so the
> microcell cost $100 less than the advertised price. Don't know
> whether the rebate is still available, though.
>
> Patti
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:11 PM, N1JMM1_GMAIL wrote:
>
>> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
>> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
>>
>> Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I
>> hold
>> it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
>> enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
>> find a sweet spot.
>>
>> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
>> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other
>> AT&T
>> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search
>> for
>> the signal to use the phone. Verison& Sprint also claim decent
>> coverage
>> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
>> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
>> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
>>
>> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking
>> for
>> alternative solutions.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Jim-
>>
>>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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I have had some good experience with some BDA (Bi-Directional Amplifier) but
unfortunately they were for Nextels. However the principle is the same.

CSI - Cellular Specialties Inc do a google search for them. I am not 100%
sure if they have one for GSM / EDGE / UMTS but its worth a look.

The other good thing is this would provide wide area in building coverage
for all employees on the network,

Our BDA in the building for Nextel also enhanced other 800mhz freqs so when
ever local Police or Fire guys came in for service their 800 portables
worked great. LOL but that's another story..

Just make sure its professionally installed and the carrier is notified. The
newer BDA units are self regulating to make sure there is no system
interference. But they do work.

From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of N1JMM1_GMAIL
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:11 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apple-iphone] Signal boosters / Repeater ?

Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.

Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I hold
it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
find a sweet spot.

While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
nice to have the iphone on Nextel.

I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
alternative solutions.

Thanks
-Jim-

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Yes, you're correct about all those things. You can pay a $20
monthly fee for a plan that puts all the minutes you use onto it, but
I cancelled that because I don't use all my minutes ever anyway. And
it bugged me that I had to pay to get a decent signal when I feel that
AT&T should be providing that as part of the service I pay for.

But after years of never having a good signal at home, when they
offered the $100 rebate I bought it and I'm not sorry.
At your office, though, this clearly isn't an option.

Patti

On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:22 AM, N1JMM1_GMAIL wrote:

> I looked at that in the store when I got the phone, seems to me it
> requires an internet connection and they still charge you minutes & or
> data when you use it and yet you have to supply the internet to it.
> http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/3gmicrocell/ Also calls will not
> transfer to it, you can start calls on it and transfer to a cell tower
> but not from cell tower to it. It obviously has some limitations and
> you
> don't get any cost savings using it.
>
> Since this is at my work place, connecting to the company network is
> not
> allowed so this is not an option.
>
> Thanks
> -Jim-
>
> On 10/13/2010 8:46 AM, Patti Robertson wrote:
> > Are you talking about lack of signal strength at your home?
> >
> > I bought an AT&T microcell last summer and have been really happy
> with
> > it. I could only get 1 bar or nothing, usually, at my house.
> > Now I have 5 bars constantly and never have a dropped call here.
> >
> > They gave me a $100 rebate which I used to pay down my bill, so the
> > microcell cost $100 less than the advertised price. Don't know
> > whether the rebate is still available, though.
> >
> > Patti
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:11 PM, N1JMM1_GMAIL wrote:
> >
> >> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
> >> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
> >>
> >> Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I
> >> hold
> >> it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will
> get
> >> enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go
> outside and
> >> find a sweet spot.
> >>
> >> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal
> strength
> >> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other
> >> AT&T
> >> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and
> search
> >> for
> >> the signal to use the phone. Verison& Sprint also claim decent
> >> coverage
> >> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
> >> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would
> be
> >> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
> >>
> >> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking
> >> for
> >> alternative solutions.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Jim-
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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If you know how to make yagi or log periodic antennas - there is the old passive reflector trick. You use two antennas, point one at the cell tower, hook it up to the second antenna and point it into your house. It worked for people in a valley behind a mountain from TV stations, they would get together and place two antennas on top of the mountain and bounce signals into the valley for everybody. No reason why it shouldn't work for cell signals, too. There are a lot of antenna design calculators on the web, materials would be really cheap, antennas really small at 2.4GHz.

I'm about to do it, because my house is a new subdivision pretty far from the cell tower, my daughter complains of dead zones in her room. When I get it working, I suppose I could post a web site with construction details.

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, N1JMM1_GMAIL <n1jmm1@...> wrote:
>
> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /
> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
>
> Doesn't matter if the phone is in the carry case, pocket, or how I hold
> it, most of the time it reports NO SERVICE, occasionally it will get
> enough service to ring but can't conduct a call until I go outside and
> find a sweet spot.
>
> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
> the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
>
> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
> alternative solutions.
>
> Thanks
> -Jim-
>

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Patti Robertson <pattiandken@...> wrote:
>
> Are you talking about lack of signal strength at your home?
>
> I bought an AT&T microcell last summer and have been really happy with
> it. I could only get 1 bar or nothing, usually, at my house.
> Now I have 5 bars constantly and never have a dropped call here.
>
> They gave me a $100 rebate which I used to pay down my bill, so the
> microcell cost $100 less than the advertised price. Don't know
> whether the rebate is still available, though.
>
> Patti
>
You folks keep talking about that rebate but you never mention that the rebate is only if you sighn up for the unlimited minutes plan!! Visit AT&T for all the real information.

http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/

 >> Has anybody experimented with using a signal booster / repeater /

>> bi-amp / directional antenna(s) for the iPhone 4 on AT&T.

>>

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Yes, I did sign up for the unlimited minutes plan, but the guy who
sold it to me told me that I could just keep it for a month and then
cancel and still get the rebate, so that's what I did, and the rebate
came. So it cost me $20 but I still got the $80 back. He even
implied that I could cancel before a month was over but I was slow and
didn't get around to it!

Probably not every salesperson would admit that, but mine did!

Patti

On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Donald wrote:

>
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Patti Robertson
> <pattiandken@...> wrote:
> >
> > Are you talking about lack of signal strength at your home?
> >
> > I bought an AT&T microcell last summer and have been really happy
> with
> > it. I could only get 1 bar or nothing, usually, at my house.
> > Now I have 5 bars constantly and never have a dropped call here.
> >
> > They gave me a $100 rebate which I used to pay down my bill, so the
> > microcell cost $100 less than the advertised price. Don't know
> > whether the rebate is still available, though.
> >
> > Patti
> >
> You folks keep talking about that rebate but you never mention that
> the rebate is only if you sighn up for the unlimited minutes plan!!
> Visit AT&T for all the real information.
>
>
>

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Jim, were you speaking of home or work?

If work, does your building have a metal roof? If so the answer would be repeaters with an antenna outside. You should be able to find them for about $400 each, but you will need one for GSM and one for CDMA. If it is a warehouse with steel racking you may need more.

Nothing will help for steel roofing except a repeater. There is nothing the service provider can do to penetrate metal. If you have a stucco house, the wire mesh used to hold the stucco to the walls can act as a Faraday cage and cause the same problem.

Brent

On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:11 PM, N1JMM1_GMAIL wrote:

> While their online coverage maps claim to have average signal strength
> at my work place, the iphone 4 reports "NO SERVICE". Several other AT&T
> users have the same/simular results, having to go outside and search for
> the signal to use the phone. Verison & Sprint also claim decent coverage
> there but it isn't true either. The only thing that works there is
> Nextel because we have a Nextel site on the property, oh it would be
> nice to have the iphone on Nextel.
>
> I doubt AT&T will resolve the coverage any time soon so I'm looking for
> alternative solutions.

Team

What have you found as the best app to read excel spreadsheets and Microsoft attachments?

Thx

Bill

Sent from my AT&T wireless device!

I recommend Documents To Go.

---
Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 ]=-

On Oct 13, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Bill Sardone <wsardone@optonline.net> wrote:

> Team
>
> What have you found as the best app to read excel spreadsheets and Microsoft attachments?
>
> Thx
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from my AT&T wireless device!
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Is possible to change language to say Dutch
with AZERTY soft keyboard for an unlocked
iPhone 4 which has been bought in USA?

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On any iPhone -

Settings > General > Keyboard > International Keyboards > Add New
Keyboard...

Scroll down and tap Dutch, Dutch will be added under English (on a US
iPhone) then tap Dutch and you can change Qwerty ot AZERTY or QWERTZ then if
you like you can go back and remove English so Dutch is your only language.
Otherwise, when using the keyboard in any App there will be a globe signal
next to .?123 that you tap to cycle through keyboards (in this case English
and Dutch).

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 13:14, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Is possible to change language to say Dutch
> with AZERTY soft keyboard for an unlocked
> iPhone 4 which has been bought in USA?
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You can choose a number of keyboard localisations in Settings > General >
International > Keyboards > Add New Keyboard. You can then switch between
them by tapping the globe that appears left of the space bar in the virtual
keyboard.

Otto

On 13 October 2010 18:14, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Is possible to change language to say Dutch
> with AZERTY soft keyboard for an unlocked
> iPhone 4 which has been bought in USA?
>

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