N.A. Nada wrote:
> From what I have seen, with limited experience, AT&T is coding the
> SIM cards as to which account plan it is set up for, and if the
> hardware does not match it will not work.

Doesn't that violate the entire purpose of using a SIM card? Last I
knew, the GSM standard is that you can use any SIM card in any
(unlocked) device.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

A phone sim to a USB dongle won't work. But to another phone, I think it does.

 Archie 

On Oct 16, 2010, at 16:01, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> From what I have seen, with limited experience, AT&T is coding the SIM cards as to which account plan it is set up for, and if the hardware does not match it will not work.
>
> I tried a iPhone SIM card in an AT&T USB dongle for a laptop, no go. I spoke to a AT&T store I know and she confirmed it.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Granbubba wrote:
>
>> Were you able to find a hack that will allow it to use any AT&T card that has data on it to work
>>
>> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick - Sprint Repair" <sprintrepair@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have tried using the other cards I have access to and it give me a Data error.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now its working fine on EDGE using Tmobile.. but its sooo slow.
>>>
>>> When I put in a ATT card, I switch it back to 3G, it recognizes it and voice will work but no data. When I click an app that requires data I get an error message.
>>>
>>> Yes WIFI works but I am not always near a hotspot or work. Which backs up what I have been told about it needing an iPhone Data plan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was told that theres a hack that will allow it to use ANY ATT card that has data on it to work. But I have yet to find out what it is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____________________________________
>>> Blackberry PIN 216AB19A
>>>
>>> Blackberry, Treo, Windows Mobile, iPhone Repair
>>> Motorola 2-Way Radio Service and Technical Consulting
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Archie Grapa
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:38 AM
>>> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] 3G Data with Non iPhone Plan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I really think BlackBerry plans work with the iPhone.
>>>
>>> The service provider does not mind (I think) if what phone you are using. I think all phones have the same way of connecting to the internet.
>>>
>>>  Archie 
>>>
>>> On May 20, 2010, at 22:14, "Patrick" <sprintrepair@... <mailto:sprintrepair%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I did a quick search just in case this has been discussed previously and i didnt find much.
>>>
>>> So my question is.
>>>
>>> What are my options to be able to use a 3G iPhone Data only (voice not necessary as I have a great voice and data rate plan with another carrier)?
>>>
>>> I have access to active data only ATT 3G sim cards thru my work.
>>> Some are Blackberry plans and others are general handset devices with unlimited data plans. But I know the iPhone will not work with them as its not an iPhone data plan.
>>>
>>> I am even willing to add a legit iPhone 3G data only plan to my work or personal acct and pay for it my self but its been pointed out to me by someone that ATT doesnt offer that. They require Voice and Data. I dont mind paying 40 a month for data but wont pay 80 or more a month for voice services I wont use.
>>>
>>> Feel free to point me in the right direction or make suggestions.
>>>
>>> The current unit is unlocked and working with T-Mo and has 3.1.2 software on it.
>>>
>>> If someone wants to email me direct with info thats great to. Not sure how the groups feels about such requests for unlocking and getting data only plans. So any help is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Right now all I am good at is fixing them when they break, i know very little about the software side of the device.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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The phone function works in another phone, but moving the AT&T SIM from an iPhone to an AT&T QuickConnect USB dongle to use with my MacBook Pro, the data function does not work.

Defeat the purpose of a SIM card, yes. Violate? Violate what? There is no law that is violated?

Locking GSM hardware to a service provider, defeats the purpose of the SIM card, but it is done. But if you are going to get hardware at subsidized prices, then that is what you will get. What upsets me is that there is no option to purchase the hardware at unsubsidized retail and then get a discount on the service. Can you say greed?

Brent

On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> N.A. Nada wrote:
>> From what I have seen, with limited experience, AT&T is coding the
>> SIM cards as to which account plan it is set up for, and if the
>> hardware does not match it will not work.
>
> Doesn't that violate the entire purpose of using a SIM card? Last I
> knew, the GSM standard is that you can use any SIM card in any
> (unlocked) device.

Greed? I think not.
It's the American way. Capitalism at it's best (or worst). LOL

Roger

---
Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 ]=-

On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:44 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> The phone function works in another phone, but moving the AT&T SIM from an iPhone to an AT&T QuickConnect USB dongle to use with my MacBook Pro, the data function does not work.
>
> Defeat the purpose of a SIM card, yes. Violate? Violate what? There is no law that is violated?
>
> Locking GSM hardware to a service provider, defeats the purpose of the SIM card, but it is done. But if you are going to get hardware at subsidized prices, then that is what you will get. What upsets me is that there is no option to purchase the hardware at unsubsidized retail and then get a discount on the service. Can you say greed?
>
> Brent
>
> On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>
>> N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> From what I have seen, with limited experience, AT&T is coding the
>>> SIM cards as to which account plan it is set up for, and if the
>>> hardware does not match it will not work.
>>
>> Doesn't that violate the entire purpose of using a SIM card? Last I
>> knew, the GSM standard is that you can use any SIM card in any
>> (unlocked) device.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

My gamer handle is froggykitty

~Nicole

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Leif Gregory <lgitouch@...> wrote:
>
> Glad you are liking it. I just added you, but I haven't had much time
> to play recently. Ldgregory.
>
> --
> Leif Gregory 
> http://PowerWagonRegistry.org
> http://TBCave.com
>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:52 AM, twenty pearls <akaivyleaf@...> wrote:
>
> > akaivyleaf
>

I too just got my new iPhone 4, this being my first iPhone though. But I
ordered screen protectors ahead of time. They arrived a day after the phone.
I always put the phone in the phone compartment in my purse and my phones
don't get scratched in there, but still, I like to protect them. I'm like
you: I don't like my stuff looking scruffy. You should give it a try with AT&T.
Maybe they will exchange the phone for you. You have nothing to lose.

Smokie

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:16 PM, inez <inez_trrs@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi
>
> I am so upset. just got my iPhone 4 after giving up my 1st gen iPhone and I
> noticed I have scratch on the screen. I through it in my purse without
> protection. I thought this model phone material was stronger than previous.
> You can only see the scratch if you hold it up to the light. It's not a big
> deal except for my disappointment since I kept the 1st gen scratch free for
> 4.5 years. I was always very careful with it- except for a few nicks here
> and there from dropping it.
>
> Do you think AT&T will exchange it? or just get a screen protector.
>
> It's a tiny scratch - I guess I can live with it.
>
> Bummer
>
> I
>
>
>

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Is anyone else having trouble with viewing their texts?
When I'm alerted of a text and press view my reply box and keyboard comes up making it almost impossible to view.

Sent from Allan's iPhone 4

I've been having issues also on my way to the apple store also having problems with my headphones

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone else having trouble with viewing their texts?
> When I'm alerted of a text and press view my reply box and keyboard comes up making it almost impossible to view.
>
> Sent from Allan's iPhone 4
>
>

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Hello N.A. Nada,

On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:

> Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
>
> Brent

Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating the
syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.

In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can temporarily
stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there another
menu somewhere that I should look at?

--
~~Nick Andriash~~
Courtenay, B.C. Canada

Yes - you don't sync with iTunes AND MobileMe or for that matter MobileMe
and anything else if it is the same data. For example if you are syncing
MobileMe for Contacts on iPhone and Mac (or iPhone and PC) you don't also
sync with Google on the PC if they are the same contacts or it will be
duplicated Google will sync with computer and computer will sync with
MobileMe copying everything there back and forth (same thing with
Calendars). I use both but for different data, Google / GMail is business
and MobileMe is personal so there is no duplication and both are isolated
from each other on computers and on the phone show up either all together or
if selected from the menu, either or any combination of them.

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:29, Nick Andriash <Nickster248@telus.net> wrote:

> Hello N.A. Nada,
>
> On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:
>
> > Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
> >
> > Brent
>
> Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
> MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating the
> syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.
>
> In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can temporarily
> stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there another
> menu somewhere that I should look at?
>
> --
> ~~Nick Andriash~~
> Courtenay, B.C. Canada
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Ok, Bill, I understand all that - but how does one fix it?

I made that mistake over a year ago, and I've been battling it ever since!

I now have up to 45,000 contacts in outlook which I can easy pare down to 2-3,000 and delete deleted items.

But last time I synced, even telling iTunes to replace contacts on the phone with outlook contacts, I'm up to 140,000 on the phone and 45,000 in Outlook again.

I have purchased a couple iTunes apps to eliminate duplicates, but they crash above 30,000 and I have run scanpst on my outlook file.

Is the solution to empty the contacts on the phone completely? If so, how does one do that?

Im driving 100 miles to the apple store next weekend to see if they will replace me cracked front glass on my 4 - do they have tools that can fix they contact problem?

Thanks,

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes - you don't sync with iTunes AND MobileMe or for that matter MobileMe
> and anything else if it is the same data. For example if you are syncing
> MobileMe for Contacts on iPhone and Mac (or iPhone and PC) you don't also
> sync with Google on the PC if they are the same contacts or it will be
> duplicated Google will sync with computer and computer will sync with
> MobileMe copying everything there back and forth (same thing with
> Calendars). I use both but for different data, Google / GMail is business
> and MobileMe is personal so there is no duplication and both are isolated
> from each other on computers and on the phone show up either all together or
> if selected from the menu, either or any combination of them.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:29, Nick Andriash <Nickster248@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello N.A. Nada,
> >
> > On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:
> >
> > > Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
> > >
> > > Brent
> >
> > Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
> > MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating the
> > syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.
> >
> > In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can temporarily
> > stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there another
> > menu somewhere that I should look at?
> >
> > --
> > ~~Nick Andriash~~
> > Courtenay, B.C. Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>

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If they give you a new phone, just start fresh on the phone and only sync
through OTA (Over the Air) services. I can't really help with Outlook
(haven't used it since I was betaed into Gmail nearly 10 years ago) - I can
tell you that when I made the mistake of adding 'contacts' on new Mac Mini
to MobileMe and I ended up with MobileMes contacts in Gmail and Gmails
contacts in MobileMe - First I turned off on Mini then I turned off both on
the phone (was prompted to remove or keep contacts, I selected remove) then
I logged into MobileMe and deleted all the GMail contacts then logged into
GMail and deleted the MMe contacts but I didn't have 140k and 45k, I had 2k
in GMail and about 200 in MobileMe...

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:13, Mark Mucher <mark.mucher@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, Bill, I understand all that - but how does one fix it?
>
> I made that mistake over a year ago, and I've been battling it ever since!
>
> I now have up to 45,000 contacts in outlook which I can easy pare down to
> 2-3,000 and delete deleted items.
>
> But last time I synced, even telling iTunes to replace contacts on the
> phone with outlook contacts, I'm up to 140,000 on the phone and 45,000 in
> Outlook again.
>
> I have purchased a couple iTunes apps to eliminate duplicates, but they
> crash above 30,000 and I have run scanpst on my outlook file.
>
> Is the solution to empty the contacts on the phone completely? If so, how
> does one do that?
>
> Im driving 100 miles to the apple store next weekend to see if they will
> replace me cracked front glass on my 4 - do they have tools that can fix
> they contact problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes - you don't sync with iTunes AND MobileMe or for that matter MobileMe
> > and anything else if it is the same data. For example if you are syncing
> > MobileMe for Contacts on iPhone and Mac (or iPhone and PC) you don't also
> > sync with Google on the PC if they are the same contacts or it will be
> > duplicated Google will sync with computer and computer will sync with
> > MobileMe copying everything there back and forth (same thing with
> > Calendars). I use both but for different data, Google / GMail is business
> > and MobileMe is personal so there is no duplication and both are isolated
> > from each other on computers and on the phone show up either all together
> or
> > if selected from the menu, either or any combination of them.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:29, Nick Andriash <Nickster248@telus.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello N.A. Nada,
> > >
> > > On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
> > > >
> > > > Brent
> > >
> > > Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
> > > MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating
> the
> > > syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.
> > >
> > > In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can
> temporarily
> > > stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there
> another
> > > menu somewhere that I should look at?
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~~Nick Andriash~~
> > > Courtenay, B.C. Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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these are my instructions to myself when I have duplicate iCal events, which I learned here. I think you can do the same thing for your Contacts problems.

Removing Double Calendar Entries

1. Go to iPhone Settings>Mail, Contacts, Calendars

2. under Accounts click on your MobileMe account. Then you should have Mail, Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, and Find My iPhone all with On/Off toggles.

3. Toggle calendar off. It will then give you an option to "keep on my iphone", "delete from iphone" or "cancel". Choose �Delete.�

4. Then toggle Calendar back on and let it resync to MobileMe.

On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> Yes - you don't sync with iTunes AND MobileMe or for that matter MobileMe
> and anything else if it is the same data. For example if you are syncing
> MobileMe for Contacts on iPhone and Mac (or iPhone and PC) you don't also
> sync with Google on the PC if they are the same contacts or it will be
> duplicated Google will sync with computer and computer will sync with
> MobileMe copying everything there back and forth (same thing with
> Calendars). I use both but for different data, Google / GMail is business
> and MobileMe is personal so there is no duplication and both are isolated
> from each other on computers and on the phone show up either all together or
> if selected from the menu, either or any combination of them.
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:29, Nick Andriash <Nickster248@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello N.A. Nada,
> >
> > On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:
> >
> > > Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
> > >
> > > Brent
> >
> > Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
> > MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating the
> > syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.
> >
> > In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can temporarily
> > stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there another
> > menu somewhere that I should look at?
> >
> > --
> > ~~Nick Andriash~~
> > Courtenay, B.C. Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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That would work, but I no longer have MobileMe

How does one sync with Google Gmail contacts and calendar without a corporate Google Apps account?

Thanks

Mark

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Jeffrey Fort <jeffreyfort@mac.com> wrote:

> these are my instructions to myself when I have duplicate iCal events, which I learned here. I think you can do the same thing for your Contacts problems.
>
> Removing Double Calendar Entries
>
> 1. Go to iPhone Settings>Mail, Contacts, Calendars
>
> 2. under Accounts click on your MobileMe account. Then you should have Mail, Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, and Find My iPhone all with On/Off toggles.
>
> 3. Toggle calendar off. It will then give you an option to "keep on my iphone", "delete from iphone" or "cancel". Choose "Delete."
>
> 4. Then toggle Calendar back on and let it resync to MobileMe.
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
>
>> Yes - you don't sync with iTunes AND MobileMe or for that matter MobileMe
>> and anything else if it is the same data. For example if you are syncing
>> MobileMe for Contacts on iPhone and Mac (or iPhone and PC) you don't also
>> sync with Google on the PC if they are the same contacts or it will be
>> duplicated Google will sync with computer and computer will sync with
>> MobileMe copying everything there back and forth (same thing with
>> Calendars). I use both but for different data, Google / GMail is business
>> and MobileMe is personal so there is no duplication and both are isolated
>> from each other on computers and on the phone show up either all together or
>> if selected from the menu, either or any combination of them.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:29, Nick Andriash <Nickster248@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello N.A. Nada,
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 16 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sync with either MobileMe or iTunes, but not both.
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>
>>> Hmmm?...now that is interesting. I am having all kinds of problems with
>>> MobileMe creating duplicate events/appt's so I wonder if eliminating the
>>> syncing of iTunes will resolve the problem.
>>>
>>> In iTunes, under Edit/Preferences/Devices, is that where I can temporarily
>>> stop iTunes from syncing...and just have MobileMe sync, or is there another
>>> menu somewhere that I should look at?
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~Nick Andriash~~

When you get a new iPhone4, do you have
to always
1. Put in a SIM, even if you want to use only
Wi-fi
2. Register in itunes even if you do not
intend using Appstore.
If yes then why?
>

If you buy from a carrier the answer is yes to both.

But not if you buy without contract.

---
Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 ]=-

On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> When you get a new iPhone4, do you have
> to always
> 1. Put in a SIM, even if you want to use only
> Wi-fi
> 2. Register in itunes even if you do not
> intend using Appstore.
> If yes then why?
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

You still have to use iTunes to activate it even if it is carrier unlocked
or bought from Apple or via web site - every apple product does, even the
WiFi iPad has to be activated in iTunes just the way Apple requires
registration of the devices...

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 15:41, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> If you buy from a carrier the answer is yes to both.
>
> But not if you buy without contract.
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 ]=-
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Pabitra <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > When you get a new iPhone4, do you have
> > to always
> > 1. Put in a SIM, even if you want to use only
> > Wi-fi
> > 2. Register in itunes even if you do not
> > intend using Appstore.
> > If yes then why?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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