Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even
in the same section in Settings.

Otto

On 13 November 2010 06:20, Book_of_Hezekiah <
book_of_hezekiah_10_26@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeff is right, I did have battery life in mind. Using 3G absolutely drains
> the battery faster than not using 3G. I'm not so sure if I gave the reaon
> in my original question.
>

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When AT&T first started to allow free use of their hot spots, it was
necessary to have both to connect to the hotspot. I believe that has been
changed now.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
> enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
> one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not
> even
> in the same section in Settings.
>
> Otto
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I was under the belief that your text messages and phone calls will not go through wifi but through 3G network

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-11-13, at 7:34 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
> enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
> one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even
> in the same section in Settings.
>
> Otto

I've have WiFi on, 3G on, and cell data on all the time.

I was turning 3G and cell data off when I was at home because then I use WiFi.

Then I got tired of having to do the settings switch when I leave the house.

If I don't have 3G on, then I'm using "Edge" if there's no WiFi.

Am I misunderstanding something here?

sj

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From: Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 6:34:27 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Re: "Windows shorcut" equivalents?

Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even
in the same section in Settings.

Otto

On 13 November 2010 06:20, Book_of_Hezekiah <
book_of_hezekiah_10_26@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeff is right, I did have battery life in mind. Using 3G absolutely drains
> the battery faster than not using 3G. I'm not so sure if I gave the reaon
> in my original question.
>

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Not as far as I'm concerned. At home I have wifi on and 3G off; when out I
have 3G on and wifi off. I sometimes forget and have to go into Settings to
change *both* settings.

Otto

On 13 November 2010 15:29, Mary Smith <mushicat36@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've have WiFi on, 3G on, and cell data on all the time.
>
> I was turning 3G and cell data off when I was at home because then I use
> WiFi.
>
> Then I got tired of having to do the settings switch when I leave the
> house.
>
> If I don't have 3G on, then I'm using "Edge" if there's no WiFi.
>
> Am I misunderstanding something here?
>

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Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
> enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
> one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even
> in the same section in Settings.

Other than it makes transitioning from one to the other seamless?

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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> Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even in the same section in Settings.

So you can talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time.

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On 13 November 2010 16:58, Jeffrey Kaplan <yahoo@gordol.org> wrote:

>
> Other than it makes transitioning from one to the other seamless?
>

As things stand, it wastes battery power. It seems obvious (!) to me that
there should be a simple toggle: wifi or 3G, not both, or at least an option
to make it easier.

Even better would be to automatically switch off 3G when connected to wifi.

Otto

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> As things stand, it wastes battery power. It seems obvious (!) to me that there should be a simple toggle: wifi or 3G, not both, or at least an option to make it easier.

To each his own (I think the Great British equivalent is "horses for courses").

My 3G is always on, and my Wifi is *usually* on, and I never have battery problems.

When I'm in my car, the iPhone is in the TomTom car kit, charging, even if I'm not using the TomTom App.
At home, I spend a lot of time on the computer and if the battery is getting low (extremely rare), I just plug it in to the computer while I'm there. And at night, it plugs in overnight.

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Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> > Other than it makes transitioning from one to the other seamless?
> >
>
> As things stand, it wastes battery power. It seems obvious (!) to me that

Such never bothered me, as I was rarely more than 10 minutes away from
a charger.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

Jim Saklad wrote:

> > Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G
> *and* wifi enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and
> haven't found one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent
> settings and not even in the same section in Settings.
>
> So you can talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time.

You can do that anyway with AT&T 3G.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

I think 3G automatically disables by default when connected to wifi. Note that the 3G symbol disappears when you get connected to wifi.

And I agree on the simple toggle for these functions... and easily accessible.
I think I use these toggles more than five times a day.

Archie

On Nov 14, 2010, at 1:39, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 13 November 2010 16:58, Jeffrey Kaplan <yahoo@gordol.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Other than it makes transitioning from one to the other seamless?
> >
>
> As things stand, it wastes battery power. It seems obvious (!) to me that
> there should be a simple toggle: wifi or 3G, not both, or at least an option
> to make it easier.
>
> Even better would be to automatically switch off 3G when connected to wifi.
>
> Otto

One thing that Apple has not made clear is when a user turns off 3G, does that limit both the cellular portion, voice and whatever else, and the Internet connection,

Or does that ONLY limit the Internet connection portion?

Otto,

How about when you are on a 3G call and want to check the web for something.

Mary,

Yes, when 3G is off you are on the Edge network, which is larger than the 3G network. I used to travel for work, often to farming areas, and most don't have 3G. Heck, there are many places in big cities that don't have WiFi. As I understand it, for Internet the default is to try WiFi first, and then a cellular connection next.

The reason most people turn off 3G is to conserve battery, and most of us are not constantly on the Internet with our iPhone.

I turn off 3G to conserve battery, and only turn it on when I am surfing a web page that is not optimized for a cell phone and the page is taking forever to load. None of this turn it off at home, and turn it on when leaving.

An even bigger waste of battery is when the phone is searching for cellular service, and since I used to travel out to remote farming areas, there are plenty with no cellular service. Sorry AT&T, Verizon does seem to have a low, single-digit percentage better coverage in those areas. And a double-digit percentage better coverage in Colorado & Wyoming, especially if you are on a pay as you go plan.

Brent

On Nov 13, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Mary Smith wrote:

> I've have WiFi on, 3G on, and cell data on all the time.
>
> I was turning 3G and cell data off when I was at home because then I use WiFi.
>
> Then I got tired of having to do the settings switch when I leave the house.
>
> If I don't have 3G on, then I'm using "Edge" if there's no WiFi.
>
> Am I misunderstanding something here?
>
> sj
>
> ________________________________
> From: Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 6:34:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Re: "Windows shorcut" equivalents?
>
> Does anyone know any occasion where an iPhone user would want 3G *and* wifi
> enabled at the same time? I've had mine since Jul 2009 and haven't found
> one. It makes no sense to me that they are independent settings and not even
> in the same section in Settings.
>
> Otto
>
> On 13 November 2010 06:20, Book_of_Hezekiah <
> book_of_hezekiah_10_26@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Jeff is right, I did have battery life in mind. Using 3G absolutely drains
> > the battery faster than not using 3G. I'm not so sure if I gave the reaon
> > in my original question.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 13 November 2010 16:58, Jeffrey Kaplan <yahoo@gordol.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Other than it makes transitioning from one to the other seamless?
> >
>
> As things stand, it wastes battery power. It seems obvious (!) to me that
> there should be a simple toggle: wifi or 3G, not both, or at least an option
> to make it easier.
>
> Even better would be to automatically switch off 3G when connected to wifi.

Other than on an airplane, why would you want to turn off WiFi? and that turns off both.

Why do you want to turn off WiFi?

Brent