[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2368

Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:26 AM By Livemail

Messages In This Digest (22 Messages)

1a.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Rodrigo
1b.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Jim Inman
1c.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Bruce Carter
1d.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Rodrigo
1e.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Mike Rodgers
1f.
Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS From: Jim Inman
2a.
Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Bruce Carter
2b.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Jim Saklad
2c.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: joelw135
2d.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Danielle Kinler
2e.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Brent
2f.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Bruce Carter
2g.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Christopher Collins
2h.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Archie Grapa
2i.
Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws From: Christopher Collins
3a.
Re: Remote Erase: From: William
4a.
Msg. won't quit downloading From: spadog58
4b.
Re: Msg. won't quit downloading From: Joan
4c.
Re: Msg. won't quit downloading From: Archie Grapa
5.
CUSTOM SMS tone From: iphone3g1907
6a.
Re: Finding FREE Audiobooks From: whozethere
6b.
Re: Finding FREE Audiobooks From: N.A. Nada

Messages

1a.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:05 am (PST)



A restore might help, but remember it will have the latest firmware installed on it if you do so. (4.2.1)

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Sardone
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

A friend of mine had that issue. She had never backed it up.

Took to apple store. They did restore and battery life got better

Not sure how. But that worked.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:10 PM, "jiminmanjr" <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think it's time to start digging the hole.
>
> My iPhone is about 18 months old. For the past couple months, it seems as though the battery is running shorter and shorter. I put my phone on the charger before bed, so I start the day at 100%. Throughout the workday, I have it on radio player that charges the phone.
>
> Lately, though, I'll come home at 5:30 p.m. and have 100% charge on the phone... later on, it will be down around 90%... I'll play a few games, get on the web, etc... and anywhere from 34% to 58% (tonight), it dies on me.
>
> Power on, takes longer than normal, and then back on.
> For about ten seconds.
>
> Repeat, repeat, repeat.
>
> I have tried letting it sit while dead for several hours, hoping to calibrate the battery. I've tried the double-home-click to close all the apps. I've tried many things, but nothing seems to help.
>
> So, is it time to call the family in for the funeral service??

1b.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Jim Inman" jiminmanjr@yahoo.com   jiminmanjr

Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:49 am (PST)



Is there any problem in getting the latest firmware?  In Settings-> About it says I'm on Version 4.2.1 (8C148a).

The nearest Apple store is 90 minutes away.� It's -1 today, high of 8. I may have to suck it up a bit until it warms up.

--- On Fri, 1/21/11, Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

From: Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br>
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 6:11 AM

 

A restore might help, but remember it will have the latest firmware installed on it if you do so. (4.2.1)

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Sardone
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

A friend of mine had that issue. She had never backed it up.

Took to apple store. They did restore and battery life got better

Not sure how. But that worked.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:10 PM, "jiminmanjr" <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think it's time to start digging the hole.
>
> My iPhone is about 18 months old. For the past couple months, it seems as though the battery is running shorter and shorter. I put my phone on the charger before bed, so I start the day at 100%. Throughout the workday, I have it on radio player that charges the phone.
>
> Lately, though, I'll come home at 5:30 p.m. and have 100% charge on the phone... later on, it will be down around 90%... I'll play a few games, get on the web, etc... and anywhere from 34% to 58% (tonight), it dies on me.
>
> Power on, takes longer than normal, and then back on.
> For about ten seconds.
>
> Repeat, repeat, repeat.
>
> I have tried letting it sit while dead for several hours, hoping to calibrate the battery. I've tried the double-home-click to close all the apps. I've tried many things, but nothing seems to help.
>
> So, is it time to call the family in for the funeral service??

1c.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Bruce Carter" rbrucecarter@yahoo.com   rbrucecarter

Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:50 am (PST)



> My iPhone is about 18 months old. For the past couple months, it seems as though the battery is running shorter and shorter.

A few thoughts -

If you leave apps running when you lock the phone, it will use up the battery. Shut down all apps before locking.

If you don't use the wi-fi, shut it off in settings. That wastes power.

Your radio player - is it designed specifically for the iPhone 3Gs? I have two useless "iHomes" that don't charge the iPhone, but do play through it. My car hookup also does not charge it for the same reason. I also have a car charger that doesn't work for the 3Gs. It is very likely your radio player doesn't charge it either.

Finally - if you are sure the battery is dead, and unless you just WANT to spend money on a new phone - go to one of those iPhone battery web sites, and spend under $10 for a new battery and the tool to open the phone. A 12 year old kid can change the battery - so you probably can, too.

1d.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:41 am (PST)



If you are on 4.2.1 you have the latest fw for now, so no problem with an update.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Inman
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Is there any problem in getting the latest firmware? In Settings-> About it says I'm on Version 4.2.1 (8C148a).

The nearest Apple store is 90 minutes away.� It's -1 today, high of 8. I may have to suck it up a bit until it warms up.

--- On Fri, 1/21/11, Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

From: Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br>
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 6:11 AM

A restore might help, but remember it will have the latest firmware installed on it if you do so. (4.2.1)

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Sardone
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

A friend of mine had that issue. She had never backed it up.

Took to apple store. They did restore and battery life got better

Not sure how. But that worked.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:10 PM, "jiminmanjr" <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I think it's time to start digging the hole.
>
> My iPhone is about 18 months old. For the past couple months, it seems as though the battery is running shorter and shorter. I put my phone on the charger before bed, so I start the day at 100%. Throughout the workday, I have it on radio player that charges the phone.
>
> Lately, though, I'll come home at 5:30 p.m. and have 100% charge on the phone... later on, it will be down around 90%... I'll play a few games, get on the web, etc... and anywhere from 34% to 58% (tonight), it dies on me.
>
> Power on, takes longer than normal, and then back on.
> For about ten seconds.
>
> Repeat, repeat, repeat.
>
> I have tried letting it sit while dead for several hours, hoping to calibrate the battery. I've tried the double-home-click to close all the apps. I've tried many things, but nothing seems to help.
>
> So, is it time to call the family in for the funeral service??

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1e.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Mike Rodgers" mikerodgerske5gbc@yahoo.com   mikerodgerske5gbc

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:43 am (PST)



Reducing brightness has certainly helped mine.

I saw it on the radio!

Happy QSO'ing. Mike R

1f.

Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Jim Inman" jiminmanjr@yahoo.com   jiminmanjr

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 am (PST)





--- On Fri, 1/21/11, Bruce Carter <rbrucecarter@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Carter <rbrucecarter@yahoo.com>
Subject: [apple-iphone] Re: The Continuously Dying iPhone 3GS
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 9:11 AM

 

> My iPhone is about 18 months old. For the past couple months, it seems as though the battery is running shorter and shorter.

A few thoughts -

If you leave apps running when you lock the phone, it will use up the battery. Shut down all apps before locking.  I usually do this...

If you don't use the wi-fi, shut it off in settings. That wastes power.
Wi-Fi is always off.  I only use the 3G.

Your radio player - is it designed specifically for the iPhone 3Gs? I have two useless "iHomes" that don't charge the iPhone, but do play through it. My car hookup also does not charge it for the same reason. I also have a car charger that doesn't work for the 3Gs. It is very likely your radio player doesn't charge it either.  The box for the iHome says it works with the 3GS - and it does indicate on the battery that it is charging.

Finally - if you are sure the battery is dead, and unless you just WANT to spend money on a new phone - go to one of those iPhone battery web sites, and spend under $10 for a new battery and the tool to open the phone. A 12 year old kid can change the battery - so you probably can, too.
The problem isn't that the battery is dead (I don't believe) - it's that the phone "dies" at around 50% usage.  That's why I'm trying to figure out the recalibration option, or going to an Apple Store to get it reset.
Thanks for the input!!

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2a.

Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Bruce Carter" rbrucecarter@yahoo.com   rbrucecarter

Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:49 am (PST)

2b.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:54 am (PST)



> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/apple-iphones-unremovable-pentalobe-screws/

An iPhone 4 pentalobe screwdriver costs $9.95 from iFixit.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

2c.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "joelw135" joel.waxman@gmail.com   joelw135

Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:09 am (PST)



The screwdriver that iFixit sells works, but it isn't an exact fit. I hope that a correct fitting one will be out soon. You can use the iFixit kit but be aware that you must be very careful to avoid stripping the screw head.

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/apple-iphones-unremovable-pentalobe-screws/
>
> An iPhone 4 pentalobe screwdriver costs $9.95 from iFixit.

2d.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Danielle Kinler" d.kinler@yahoo.com   d.kinler

Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:10 am (PST)



you can also use the a philips screwdriver actually the same one for the 3g 3gs
and 4 original screws. It will work before we got our pentalobe screw driver i
used a philips screwdriver to remove the screws

Danielle

________________________________
From: Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 10:46:43 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

>http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/apple-iphones-unremovable-pentalobe-screws/
>/

An iPhone 4 pentalobe screwdriver costs $9.95 from iFixit.

2e.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:19 am (PST)



There is a kit for opening iPhone 4 on eBay for $5.99 + $3.50 shipping.

*http://goo.gl/PxPLb

I have no connection to the seller.

Brent
*
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Danielle Kinler <d.kinler@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> you can also use the a philips screwdriver actually the same one for the 3g
> 3gs
> and 4 original screws. It will work before we got our pentalobe screw
> driver i
> used a philips screwdriver to remove the screws
>
> Danielle
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com <jimdoc%40me.com>>
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com <apple-iphone%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 10:46:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Unremovable iPhone 4 screws
>
>
> >
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/apple-iphones-unremovable-pentalobe-screws/
> >/
>
> An iPhone 4 pentalobe screwdriver costs $9.95 from iFixit.
>
>
>

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2f.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Bruce Carter" rbrucecarter@yahoo.com   rbrucecarter

Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:40 am (PST)



You have to wonder what business model they used to justify this. They sell millions of iPhones, so multiply that by - what - 2 or 4 screws per iPhone. Even if the screws are a penny each for Apple, that is still a lot of money, especially when you figure in tooling costs, distribution costs, the cost of labor each time a phone is brought into Apple, etc. Probably in the millions of dollars.

Now - what percentage of people will actually change their batteries themselves? 1% 0.1%? I just don't see how they are losing enough money on do it yourselfers that it justifies all the expense.

The only conclusion I can come to is that this is lawyer mandated. Since the batteries can get as hot as hot lava if they are shorted, a clumsy or inexperienced person doing it themself can be in real danger. Apple doesn't want a lawsuit. The problem? This won't stop a determined user from doing it anyway. That small percentage is a very determined, stubborn percentage and will stop at nothing to do the job themselves. So - the new screws accomplish NOTHING.

2g.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" iphone@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:57 pm (PST)



The new screws achieve exactly what Apple is likely to want.

Have plain philips screws there and there is the likelihood of an "average joe" trying to open it and causing a problem.

Put pentalobe screws in and that likelihood is now almost zero.

Less warranty claims. Less complaints. Less problems.

And while you can quote 1% as a number of people who might want to change their batteries, don't forget that 1% is still 160,000 iOS devices (on the last number I saw) so that's 160000 more possible warranty claims.

cjc

On 22/01/2011, at 5:34 AM, Bruce Carter wrote:

> You have to wonder what business model they used to justify this. They sell millions of iPhones, so multiply that by - what - 2 or 4 screws per iPhone. Even if the screws are a penny each for Apple, that is still a lot of money, especially when you figure in tooling costs, distribution costs, the cost of labor each time a phone is brought into Apple, etc. Probably in the millions of dollars.
>
> Now - what percentage of people will actually change their batteries themselves? 1% 0.1%? I just don't see how they are losing enough money on do it yourselfers that it justifies all the expense.
>
> The only conclusion I can come to is that this is lawyer mandated. Since the batteries can get as hot as hot lava if they are shorted, a clumsy or inexperienced person doing it themself can be in real danger. Apple doesn't want a lawsuit. The problem? This won't stop a determined user from doing it anyway. That small percentage is a very determined, stubborn percentage and will stop at nothing to do the job themselves. So - the new screws accomplish NOTHING.
>
>
>

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2h.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Archie Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com   archiegrapa

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:02 pm (PST)



Isn't warranty voided when you open the iPhone?

The only thing I see they are trying to avoid are lawsuits.

Archie

On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:55, Christopher Collins <iphone@analogdigital.com.au> wrote:

> The new screws achieve exactly what Apple is likely to want.
>
> Have plain philips screws there and there is the likelihood of an "average joe" trying to open it and causing a problem.
>
> Put pentalobe screws in and that likelihood is now almost zero.
>
> Less warranty claims. Less complaints. Less problems.
>
> And while you can quote 1% as a number of people who might want to change their batteries, don't forget that 1% is still 160,000 iOS devices (on the last number I saw) so that's 160000 more possible warranty claims.
>
> cjc
>
> On 22/01/2011, at 5:34 AM, Bruce Carter wrote:
>
> > You have to wonder what business model they used to justify this. They sell millions of iPhones, so multiply that by - what - 2 or 4 screws per iPhone. Even if the screws are a penny each for Apple, that is still a lot of money, especially when you figure in tooling costs, distribution costs, the cost of labor each time a phone is brought into Apple, etc. Probably in the millions of dollars.
> >
> > Now - what percentage of people will actually change their batteries themselves? 1% 0.1%? I just don't see how they are losing enough money on do it yourselfers that it justifies all the expense.
> >
> > The only conclusion I can come to is that this is lawyer mandated. Since the batteries can get as hot as hot lava if they are shorted, a clumsy or inexperienced person doing it themself can be in real danger. Apple doesn't want a lawsuit. The problem? This won't stop a determined user from doing it anyway. That small percentage is a very determined, stubborn percentage and will stop at nothing to do the job themselves. So - the new screws accomplish NOTHING.
> >

2i.

Re: Unremovable iPhone 4 screws

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" iphone@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:48 am (PST)



Warranty may be voided if you open the iPhone, but that doesn't stop people trying to claim warranty after they have opened the iPhone and broken it.

cjc

On 22/01/2011, at 1:18 PM, Archie Grapa wrote:

> Isn't warranty voided when you open the iPhone?
>
> The only thing I see they are trying to avoid are lawsuits.
>
> Archie
>
> On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:55, Christopher Collins <iphone@analogdigital.com.au> wrote:
>
> > The new screws achieve exactly what Apple is likely to want.
> >
> > Have plain philips screws there and there is the likelihood of an "average joe" trying to open it and causing a problem.
> >
> > Put pentalobe screws in and that likelihood is now almost zero.
> >
> > Less warranty claims. Less complaints. Less problems.
> >
> > And while you can quote 1% as a number of people who might want to change their batteries, don't forget that 1% is still 160,000 iOS devices (on the last number I saw) so that's 160000 more possible warranty claims.
> >
> > cjc
> >
> > On 22/01/2011, at 5:34 AM, Bruce Carter wrote:
> >
> > > You have to wonder what business model they used to justify this. They sell millions of iPhones, so multiply that by - what - 2 or 4 screws per iPhone. Even if the screws are a penny each for Apple, that is still a lot of money, especially when you figure in tooling costs, distribution costs, the cost of labor each time a phone is brought into Apple, etc. Probably in the millions of dollars.
> > >
> > > Now - what percentage of people will actually change their batteries themselves? 1% 0.1%? I just don't see how they are losing enough money on do it yourselfers that it justifies all the expense.
> > >
> > > The only conclusion I can come to is that this is lawyer mandated. Since the batteries can get as hot as hot lava if they are shorted, a clumsy or inexperienced person doing it themself can be in real danger. Apple doesn't want a lawsuit. The problem? This won't stop a determined user from doing it anyway. That small percentage is a very determined, stubborn percentage and will stop at nothing to do the job themselves. So - the new screws accomplish NOTHING.
> > >
>
>

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3a.

Re: Remote Erase:

Posted by: "William" bill.gossage@sbcglobal.net   bill.gossage@sbcglobal.net

Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:20 pm (PST)



Go into settings, general, enable restrictions, create password, turn off location and accounts. this means someone would need the password to disable those funtions.

Bill

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "iphone3g1907" <iphone3g1907@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Group,
> I know this was addressed before but Please help.
>
> How do you restrict someone stopping you/me to do remote wipe or to use find my iPhone option.
>
> Thank you.
>

4a.

Msg. won't quit downloading

Posted by: "spadog58" elizamay77@gmail.com   spadog58

Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:06 pm (PST)



Anybody know why an email would not finish downloading to my 3gs (OS 4.1)? I can't access this message, so I don't know who it's from or to what address it is going (I have 4 email addresses). I've tried a hard reset, with no luck. Any suggestions??? All other mail seems to be working fine.

4b.

Re: Msg. won't quit downloading

Posted by: "Joan" jheitzeb1@yahoo.com   jheitzeb1

Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:46 pm (PST)



Try syncing your iPhone and see if message persists.

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "spadog58" <elizamay77@...> wrote:
>
> Anybody know why an email would not finish downloading to my 3gs (OS 4.1)? I can't access this message, so I don't know who it's from or to what address it is going (I have 4 email addresses). I've tried a hard reset, with no luck. Any suggestions??? All other mail seems to be working fine.
>

4c.

Re: Msg. won't quit downloading

Posted by: "Archie Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com   archiegrapa

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:02 pm (PST)



Try opening that on a computer.

Archie

On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:03, "spadog58" <elizamay77@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody know why an email would not finish downloading to my 3gs (OS 4.1)? I can't access this message, so I don't know who it's from or to what address it is going (I have 4 email addresses). I've tried a hard reset, with no luck. Any suggestions??? All other mail seems to be working fine.
>

5.

CUSTOM SMS tone

Posted by: "iphone3g1907" iphone3g1907@yahoo.com   iphone3g1907

Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:02 pm (PST)



Does anybody know how to use custom sms tone.
THANK YOU.

6a.

Re: Finding FREE Audiobooks

Posted by: "whozethere" whozethere@gmail.com   whozethere

Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:48 am (PST)



I belong to our state library. They have an agreement with netlibrary.com. I can download out of their "collection" free audio books and eBooks. Some good, some not so good. I am sure some bigger city libraries must have agreements and even bigger "free" netlibrary collections. I believe ours is heavier on the eBooks than the audio books.

Vickie

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Inner Jewel <innerjewel@...> wrote:
>
> I use the free download service of all the latest greatest and classic audiobooks of my local library. I don't know where you live but if it is in the USA this service is free and wonderful.
>
> I've just spent 2 days filling my new shiny red iPod nano with loads of audiobooks, everything from Patricia Cornwell to Terry Hatchett!!
>
> Ashi
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

6b.

Re: Finding FREE Audiobooks

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:48 am (PST)



To say that "the process of getting a book can be a bit cumbersome" is an understatement.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad my local county library subscribes to Overdrive, but it tends to have mostly WVMs, instead of MP3s. So either I have to keep one iPod formated for Windows, or go through extra steps to get it into iTunes and to into my iPhone. I prefer to have them on my iPhone.

Also some authors and/ or publisher even go so far as to restrict whether or not you can move the book to a portable device, and /or Apple iDevice.

On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Christopher Erickson wrote:

> Another application that you could try is the free OverDrive Media Console.
> You can download library books (audio & ebooks) directly to your iOS
> device. I've used it for a couple of weeks now and for the most part it
> works well. The cons are that the selection of books are currently very
> limited (in my area), availability (you have to go into a queue), and the
> process of getting a book can be a bit cumbersome. Other than that the app
> works fine. :) Oh yeah, except for the part where the audio book portion
> frequently jumps back a bit when relaunching the app. A work around is to
> book mark your location.
>
> Reading back through this paragraph it doesn't sound like a ringing
> endorsement for the application but I find it's definitely worth trying out
> because it works as a nice supplement to my other ereaders.
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/overdrive-media-console/id366869252?mt=8

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