Is there any wireless router which does not need a windows or Mac computer to set up?
Since in normal cases, a CD  is provided and needs to be run in the computer; It asks many questions so as to set parameter and this is a very daunting task for an average user.
 
PKS

--- On Sat, 15/1/11, Jeffrey Kaplan <yahoo@gordol.org> wrote:

From: Jeffrey Kaplan <yahoo@gordol.org>
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Airport router vs Cisco Valet
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 15 January, 2011, 6:36

 

On 1/14/2011 7:52 AM, Norma Steele wrote:

> I have been seeing on TV the Cisco Valet which is advertised to be easy
> peasy to set up so I am contemplating purchasing the Valet. I also am
> thinking of buying the Apple Airport Extreme MC340LL/A or the AirPort
> Express Base Station MB321LL/A There is a pretty substantial difference
> between the Valet ($89 on Amazon) and Airport Extreme ($159.00) and am
> looking for feedback on the 3 routers.

Do not get the Airport Extreme. It's way overpriced, is actually not
that easy to set up, doesn't support NTFS for USB attached network
storage, and it runs extremely hot. Mine cooked itself after about
two years.

For roughly the same price as the Valet, you can get a Netgear that
has more functionality and is incredibly easy to set up. Mine was
little more than simply plugging it in and giving it the same network
settings the Airport had. Total time from taking it out of the box to
being fully online was about 5 minutes, and most of that was taken up
by plugging in the physical connections (network cables to the modem
and wired items and power cord).

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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On 1/15/2011 3:25 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> I'm on my 4th Apple Airport, they seem to last me about 2.5 years,
> although I honestly don't remember buying number 3, which would up the
> longevity.

If my Netgear router lasts as long as the Airport, I'll have gotten
more value out of it since it costs less.

> I have kept my flat on a desk or shelf, but would not call them hot.
> Warm enough to attract a cat, definitely. Warm enough to cook itself,
> I would think not, but then again I am only getting about 2.5 years
> each. And yes, I did have an early ones with the overheating capacitors.

I got the Airport Extreme to replace a Linksys shortly after I got the
iPhone 3G, which was about two weeks after its release (I wasn't in
line early enough) because the Linksys wouldn't let the iPhone connect
to WiFi.

The Airport died on my a few months ago. It always ran hot. Maybe
not hot enough to literally cook itself, but it was definitely more
than warm to the touch, and sometimes the top surface was on the hot
side. Apple said that was normal.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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Yes. Most (all?) default to using DHCP, which means that they automatically
allocate addresses to computers on the LAN (local area network). You just
connect the router to your modem (assuming you have a separate DSL or cable
modem) and switch it on. This gets you working straight away but you have an
unprotected network until you go into the admin function and enable
encryption, etc.

IMO setup CDs (often Windows-only) are supplied only because the setup in
Windows used to be so unnecessarily difficult (I assume that is no longer
the case with Vista or Win7).

We have a Belkin 54G router and this just worked straight away with our
Macs.

Otto

On 16 January 2011 11:14, pabitra saha <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Is there any wireless router which does not need a windows or Mac computer
> to set up?
> Since in normal cases, a CD is provided and needs to be run in the
> computer; It asks many questions so as to set parameter and this is a very
> daunting task for an average user.
>

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Somebody may have mentioned this already -- but you do not have to convert to m4b. Hmmm.....well, let me say that with iPod you don't. For all I know, iPhones may act differently.

For iPods, just import the mp3 files into your iTunes library. Then select all of the files, and hit "get info". Then you can go to "options", and set "media kind" to "audiobook". This sounds a bit complicated, but you can do it to all of the book's files at one time -- and it's a lot simpler than converting to m4b!

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Adrie Verweijmeren <adrieverw@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Canyon,
> I have a lot of audiobooks. Normally mp3 is seen as audio-file. The file
> must be m4b to be an audiobook shown in Books. When it is mp3 you see it in
> Music.
> I have 3 audioboks-makers: the best is Audiobookbuilder. This one you must
> buy. It can combine more files to one single audiobook and you can add a
> picture to the file. Then you know what audiobook it is. The software
> convert the file mp3 to m4b. The send is Audiobook Wizard. This is free. The
> third is Audiobookbinder. This is also free. They do all the same things.
>
> Adrie Verweijmeren
> Netherlands.
>
> I have iPhone 4
> and iPad
>
> 2011/1/14 Canyon_raider <bradsgold@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Could someone please list step by step how to manage audiobooks in iTunes
> > for a 3gs.

I have an audiobook that is 1-long-track (it was ripped to mp3 from cassette
by a relative -- it's not available as an audible d/l & even the cd
is...hard or impossible to find, so I take what I can get!).

What would y'all suggest I use to split it up into smaller chunks?
bj

Welcome

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:23 PM, "dojovey" <dojovey@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> I am a new Member.
> I'm Donnalee from Toronto,ON. I have a 13yr old Son. I live with my Boyfriend and his 19yr old Son.
>
> I LOVE my iPhone!! I have had an iPhone for 3 yrs!!
>
> I look forward to getting to know members in the Group!!
>
>

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On 1/15/2011 3:16 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> could you educate me on your statement "doesn't support NTFS for USB
> attached network storage"?

NTFS is the Windows filesystem from Windows 2000 and up. The older
filesystem is FAT32, which is what the Airport Extreme supports (for
Windows users) for using the USB port to attach a drive as a network
storage device.

FAT32 has an effective maximum capacity of roughly 32 gigabytes. This
won't even support the smallest modern portable hard drive, never mind
a full-scale external drive.

> That sounds like what I am experiencing in try to get Back to my Mac

If you're using a Mac, then this is likely NOT the problem you're having.

> to a Drobo storage device. It either just says it can not be found or
> it says something about having more than one device on my network
> providing NAT.
>
> I am behind a Comcast bridge (Linksys/ Cisco "modem") and an Airport
> Extreme, early 2009. The Drobo is attached to the AE.

The Airport is providing NAT, and the Linksys is also likely providing
NAT. I've never even seen a Drobo, but I have heard of them. Is it
attached via USB or ethernet? If USB, it shouldn't make any
difference how many routers you have, but if ethernet, then it's
specifically looking for a network connection to the host, but it
shouldn't be trying to look beyond the first NAT.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

I'm sorry to sound so confused, but are you talking the mac's system
preferences or iTunes? I'm still unclear how do do this. I have two users id's, mine and hers that are attached to the same library, which
has all her stuff. Can I break the two accounts up, or do I have to create a new account w/a new email address? This is my first time w/iTunes. Thanks Bonnie

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Sure you can - just create a new user account on the Mac > System
> Preferences > Accounts > + > Administrator - set this one up for you and
> once you get everything you want it in your 'new' account then you can go
> back and change hers to managed/parental controls, if you like (you never
> mentioned age, etc so if you want to manage her control of the machine, you
> can set it there).
>
> When you turn on the computer from then each of you click on the
> corresponding account and if you have it set, enter the password. Each of
> you will have a folder in /Users/ for iTunes library as well as documents,
> etc and as setting the new account as administrator, you can still access
> the data that was under her (the current main) account if you want/need to.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 17:44, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a mac/os I think the problem is I had another account that was
> > connected w/hers
> > and couldn't remember the password so I had them reset it. And that's
> > where
> > the problem
> > lays. We use the same computer, but I don't want the account to be
> shared,
> > I'd like them to
> > be separate, and at this point I can't seem to do that? Thanks Bonnie
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com<bill.boulware%40gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bonnie there are several ways to do this, some of which depending on
> the
> > OS
> > > / computers you use.
> > >
> > > Do you use a Mac/OS X or Windows? Do you have separate computers or
> share
> > > the same computer?
> > >
> > > First, she isn't going to lose anything - everything that has been
> > > purchased
> > > is stored on the computer, apps can be redownloaded at any time at no
> > > charge, music/movies/tv (due to the industries) can only be downloaded
> > once
> > > but you can authorize, copy and play on up to 5 machines at any time
> (IE
> > if
> > > you authorize 5 machines then get a new computer, you have to
> > de-authorize
> > > one before authorizing the new one).
> > >
> > > It sounds like you are sharing the same computer - If that is the case
> > and
> > > want to keep libraries separate, ≈ - I would use David's suggestion and
> > > create a separate user account at the system level so when you log in,
> > you
> > > only see your library and when she logs in she only sees her library.
> > >
> > > If you don't want to use different system account and/or have separate
> > > computers, you can use the various features to recover your password on
> > > your
> > > e-mail address (aka iTunes ID aka Apple ID). Then log in to that
> account
> > > (Store Log in) then authorize the computer (Store > Authorize This
> > > Computer)
> > > and you can log in and out to make changes and maintain as necessary.
> > This
> > > will also allow you to 'share' content on devices, meaning you can sync
> > her
> > > music/apps/etc and she can sync yours.
> > >
> > > If you have more than one computer, you definitely want to enable Home
> > > Sharing (Advanced > Turn On Home Sharing) - this will allow every
> > computer
> > > to access every other computer's library on the network regardless of
> > Apple
> > > ID as long as the computers are authorized and turned on.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 16:32, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, now I have another issue. I tried setting up a new account only
> to
> > >
> > > > find
> > > > out the email I tried using was already there. A long with the one my
> > > > daughter is using. So I couldn't remember
> > > > the password, so I changed it, only to find out these two account are
> > > both
> > > > contacted to her account. I can't find where I can delete it, and
> she's
> > > > afraid if I do it will delete her songs and money she
> > > > has on the account. I'm a bit lost now. Any suggestions? Thanks
> Bonnie
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot, hugh help. Bonnie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Bill Boulware <
> > > bill.boulware@gmail.com <bill.boulware%40gmail.com> <bill.boulware%
> 40gmail.com>
>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Store - sign out then store log in and should be a button to
> create
> > > new
> > > > >> account.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected
> words).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:01, "bonniec13078" <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > > <bcsmith3%
> > > > 40gmail.com>>
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > I'm getting ready to purchase the iPhone when it comes to
> Verzion.
> > > > >> > My daughter has used my mac for her iTune account for her iPod
> and
> > > > then
> > > > >> her iPod touch. So Does anyone know how I can create an account
> for
> > my
> > > > self
> > > > >> separate from hers using iTunes? I'd appreciate any suggestions.
> > > Thanks
> > > > >> Bonnie

Bonnie, we are suggesting you create two Mac User accounts. If you follow Bill's suggestion, go to

System Prefs (under the Apple menu) > Accounts

You can create a second User of your Mac. Both Users can be 'open' and once but only one is active (on your screen) at a time. You can easily switch between them using the drop down menu of Users at the top right of the screen in the menu bar.

When you switch to her account, the Mac accesses her files, her documents directory, iPhotos, iPunes items, etc. She can't see your directories or change them.

Similarly when you are in your account.

It's simply a way to create separate protected directories of ALL your items, including iTunes files.

HTH

On Jan 16, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Bonnie Smith wrote:

> I'm sorry to sound so confused, but are you talking the mac's system
> preferences or iTunes? I'm still unclear how do do this. I have two users id's, mine and hers that are attached to the same library, which
> has all her stuff. Can I break the two accounts up, or do I have to create a new account w/a new email address? This is my first time w/iTunes. Thanks Bonnie
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sure you can - just create a new user account on the Mac > System
> > Preferences > Accounts > + > Administrator - set this one up for you and
> > once you get everything you want it in your 'new' account then you can go
> > back and change hers to managed/parental controls, if you like (you never
> > mentioned age, etc so if you want to manage her control of the machine, you
> > can set it there).
> >
> > When you turn on the computer from then each of you click on the
> > corresponding account and if you have it set, enter the password. Each of
> > you will have a folder in /Users/ for iTunes library as well as documents,
> > etc and as setting the new account as administrator, you can still access
> > the data that was under her (the current main) account if you want/need to.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 17:44, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have a mac/os I think the problem is I had another account that was
> > > connected w/hers
> > > and couldn't remember the password so I had them reset it. And that's
> > > where
> > > the problem
> > > lays. We use the same computer, but I don't want the account to be
> > shared,
> > > I'd like them to
> > > be separate, and at this point I can't seem to do that? Thanks Bonnie
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com<bill.boulware%40gmail.com>
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bonnie there are several ways to do this, some of which depending on
> > the
> > > OS
> > > > / computers you use.
> > > >
> > > > Do you use a Mac/OS X or Windows? Do you have separate computers or
> > share
> > > > the same computer?
> > > >
> > > > First, she isn't going to lose anything - everything that has been
> > > > purchased
> > > > is stored on the computer, apps can be redownloaded at any time at no
> > > > charge, music/movies/tv (due to the industries) can only be downloaded
> > > once
> > > > but you can authorize, copy and play on up to 5 machines at any time
> > (IE
> > > if
> > > > you authorize 5 machines then get a new computer, you have to
> > > de-authorize
> > > > one before authorizing the new one).
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like you are sharing the same computer - If that is the case
> > > and
> > > > want to keep libraries separate, ≈ - I would use David's suggestion and
> > > > create a separate user account at the system level so when you log in,
> > > you
> > > > only see your library and when she logs in she only sees her library.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't want to use different system account and/or have separate
> > > > computers, you can use the various features to recover your password on
> > > > your
> > > > e-mail address (aka iTunes ID aka Apple ID). Then log in to that
> > account
> > > > (Store Log in) then authorize the computer (Store > Authorize This
> > > > Computer)
> > > > and you can log in and out to make changes and maintain as necessary.
> > > This
> > > > will also allow you to 'share' content on devices, meaning you can sync
> > > her
> > > > music/apps/etc and she can sync yours.
> > > >
> > > > If you have more than one computer, you definitely want to enable Home
> > > > Sharing (Advanced > Turn On Home Sharing) - this will allow every
> > > computer
> > > > to access every other computer's library on the network regardless of
> > > Apple
> > > > ID as long as the computers are authorized and turned on.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 16:32, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > OK, now I have another issue. I tried setting up a new account only
> > to
> > > >
> > > > > find
> > > > > out the email I tried using was already there. A long with the one my
> > > > > daughter is using. So I couldn't remember
> > > > > the password, so I changed it, only to find out these two account are
> > > > both
> > > > > contacted to her account. I can't find where I can delete it, and
> > she's
> > > > > afraid if I do it will delete her songs and money she
> > > > > has on the account. I'm a bit lost now. Any suggestions? Thanks
> > Bonnie
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Bonnie Smith <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot, hugh help. Bonnie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Bill Boulware <
> > > > bill.boulware@gmail.com <bill.boulware%40gmail.com> <bill.boulware%
> > 40gmail.com>
> >
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Store - sign out then store log in and should be a button to
> > create
> > > > new
> > > > > >> account.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected
> > words).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:01, "bonniec13078" <bcsmith3@gmail.com<bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > > <bcsmith3%40gmail.com>
> > > > <bcsmith3%
> > > > > 40gmail.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > I'm getting ready to purchase the iPhone when it comes to
> > Verzion.
> > > > > >> > My daughter has used my mac for her iTune account for her iPod
> > and
> > > > > then
> > > > > >> her iPod touch. So Does anyone know how I can create an account
> > for
> > > my
> > > > > self
> > > > > >> separate from hers using iTunes? I'd appreciate any suggestions.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > >> Bonnie
>

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