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That is what isn't clear, I have a feeling that it will be clarified to say
that ANY upgrade (read new hardware upgrade) means a contract renewal and
you have to choose a new data plan at that time - I am fairly certain that
the last 3GS upgrade required me clicking on the "iPhone Unlimited Data Plan
- $30" option when going through the upgrade process.

In other words, I have a feeling you and I will be paying $25/mo for 2GB and
watching our data usage very closely - I am about to go back over my bills
for the past year and see how much I used each month. I guess since I have
the Incredible I can use it for the 'heavy' lifting and only use iPhone data
when really needed...

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 07:21, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I do not plan on doing any tethering am I correct in saying that when I
> renew with my new Iphone in june that I am grandfathered to keep my old
> plan?
>
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 07:13, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > With my experience, any of us upgrading to a new phone (iPhone 4 in a
> > couple
> > weeks), up for contract renewal, etc this will not just apply to 'new
> > customers' and seriously they couldn't even handle a month with the iPad
> 3G
> > without changing it? And how is giving up 3G minimum, unlimited maximum
> > worth only $5? If they insist on these new rates, they should have at
> > least
> > done $!0 200MB, $20 2GB, $30 5GB (what we 'really' get now), and $45
> (truly
> > unlimited w/tethering - what the current corporate plan costs).
> >
> > http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=30854
> >
> >
> > *AT&T Announces New Lower-Priced Wireless Data Plans to Make Mobile
> > Internet More Affordable to More People *
> >
> > ** *Dallas*, *Texas*, *June 02, 2010*
> > newsrelease
> > ShareThis <javascript:void(0)>
> >
> > AT&T*, the U.S. smartphone leader, today introduced new wireless data
> > plans
> > that make it more affordable for more people to enjoy the benefits of the
> > mobile Internet. Customers can pick the new data plan that best meets
> their
> > needs – either a $15 per month entry plan or a $25 per month plan with 10
> > times more data. Current smartphone customers are not required to switch
> to
> > the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension.
> >
> > "AT&T helps mobilize everything on the Internet – your favorite web
> sites,
> > TV shows, music, games and social networks. Virtually everything
> previously
> > done while sitting at a computer can now be done on the go," said Ralph
> de
> > la Vega, president and CEO, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "To give
> > more people the opportunity to experience these benefits, we're breaking
> > free from the traditional 'one-size-fits-all' pricing model and making
> the
> > mobile Internet more affordable to a greater number of people."
> >
> > Each plan includes unlimited access at no additional charge to more than
> > 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots in the U.S. Customers can also use unlimited
> > Wi-Fi at home, in the office or elsewhere if available. AT&T will also
> help
> > customers manage their wireless data usage by sending free text messages
> > after customers reach different usage intervals and by providing online
> > tools, including a smartphone app that shows monthly usage information.
> >
> > The new wireless data plans – including a new tethering option – will be
> > available beginning June 7. Current AT&T voice and texting plans are
> > unchanged.
> >
> > *More Choice*
> >
> > The new AT&T plans provide large amounts of data to enable people to
> enjoy
> > their favorite online activities:
> >
> > - *DataPlus.* Provides 200 megabytes (MB) of data – for example, enough
> > to send/receive 1,000 emails (no attachments), plus send/receive 150
> > emails
> > with attachments, plus view 400 Web pages, plus post 50 photos on
> social
> > media sites, plus watch 20 minutes of streaming video – for just $15
> per
> > month.** This plan, which can save customers up to 50 percent off
> their
> > wireless data charges, is designed for people who primarily like to
> surf
> > the
> > web, send email and use social networking apps. If customers exceed 200
> > MB
> > in a monthly billing cycle, they will receive an additional 200 MB of
> > data
> > usage for $15 for use in the cycle. Currently, 65 percent of AT&T
> > smartphone customers use less than 200 MB of data per month on average.
> > - *DataPro.* Provides 2 gigabytes (GB) of data – for example, enough to
> > send/receive 10,000 emails (no attachments), plus send/receive 1,500
> > emails
> > with attachments, plus view 4,000 Web pages, plus post 500 photos to
> > social
> > media sites, plus watch 200 minutes of streaming video – for $25 per
> > month.** Should a customer exceed 2 GB during a billing cycle, they
> will
> > receive an additional 1 GB of data for $10 for use in the cycle.
> > Currently,
> > 98 percent of AT&T smartphone customers use less than 2 GB of data a
> > month
> > on average.
> > - *Tethering.* Smartphone customers – including iPhone customers – who
> > choose the DataPro plan have the option to add tethering for an
> > additional
> > $20 per month. Tethering lets customers use their smartphones as a
> modem
> > to
> > provide a broadband connection for laptop computers, netbooks or other
> > computing devices. Tethering for iPhones will be available when Apple
> > releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
> >
> > With the new wireless data plans, pricing for a smartphone voice and data
> > bundle now starts at just $54.99 per month for an individual plan, or
> > $24.99
> > per month for an additional line on a FamilyTalk plan, $15 per month less
> > than the price of the previous entry level bundle.
> >
> > For new iPad customers, the $25 per month 2 GB plan will replace the
> > existing $29.99 unlimited plan. iPad customers will continue to pre-pay
> for
> > their wireless data plan and no contract is required. Existing iPad
> > customers who have the $29.99 per month unlimited plan can keep that plan
> > or
> > switch to the new $25 per month plan with 2 GB of data.
> >
> > *Wi-Fi at 20,000 AT&T Hot Spots*
> >
> > The vast majority of smartphones that AT&T offers have built-in Wi-Fi,
> > which
> > lets the devices automatically switch from the wireless network to a
> Wi-Fi
> > hotspot without prompting, making Wi-Fi even more convenient and easy to
> > use. This enables customers to use Wi-Fi in the home, office and at
> public
> > locations where available. Wi-Fi will generally provide consistently fast
> > speeds and does not count against a customer's monthly data plan usage
> > total. In addition, virtually all AT&T smartphone customers have access
> at
> > no additional charge to more than 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots in the U.S.
> > Customers can get more information on how to use Wi-Fi and find the
> > location
> > of AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots at www.att.com/wifiaccess.
> >
> > *Monitoring and Managing Usage*
> >
> > To help customers easily check their data usage, AT&T has made the
> > information readily available in a number of ways***:
> >
> > - *Customer Text Notifications On Data Usage.* When customers begin to
> > approach their monthly usage limit, AT&T will send three text
> > notifications
> > – after they reach 65 percent, 90 percent and 100 percent of the
> > threshold.
> > Customers will also be sent emails if AT&T has their email address.
> > - *Data Usage Monitoring.* Additionally, customers with iPhones and
> other
> > select devices can use the free AT&T myWireless application to check
> data
> > usage. The application is available for download in several smartphone
> > app
> > stores. Also, AT&T customers can call *DATA# from their wireless phone
> to
> > check their data usage for the current billing period. They receive a
> > free
> > text message with their usage information. Customers can also go online
> > to
> > www.att.com/wireless to see all of their usage information, past and
> > present.
> > - *Data Calculator.* The easy-to-use online data calculator enables
> > customers to estimate their mobile data usage and get a better sense
> for
> > which data plan is right for them. It's located at
> > www.att.com/datacalculator.
> >
> > Customers can learn more about the new plans online at
> > www.att.com/dataplans,
> > by contacting AT&T customer service at 1-800-331-0500, or by visiting an
> > AT&T retail store.
> >
> > AT&T expects these new data plans to have minimal revenue impact this
> year
> > and to not affect previous guidance for 2010.
> >
> > * AT&T products and services are provided or offered by subsidiaries and
> > affiliates of AT&T Inc. under the AT&T brand and not by AT&T Inc.
> >
> > ** Usage examples are estimates. Individual results will vary based upon
> > customer's Internet usage patterns.
> >
> > *** Customers will see their usage reflected in their tools generally
> > within
> > 15 hours or less of actual data usage.
> >
> > Largest Wi-Fi network claim based on non-municipal company and owned and
> > operated hotspots. An 802.11 b/g enabled device required.
> >
> > *About AT&T*
> > AT&T Inc. (NYSE:T) is a premier communications holding company. Its
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