Actually, six (=

 Archie 

On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:17, Archie Grapa <archiegrapa@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I can put more than that. And even more in landscape mode.
>
> I don't think that's a major issue in choosing a device. It's what you find more appealing and familiar to you. I presume iOS since this is an iPhone forum. But if you are more comfortable with Android, then get an Android device.
>
> Archie
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 18:50, "renegade600" <renegade600@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to decide what I want for xmas - ipad or tab.
> >
> > one question about the ipad. across the bottom it seems to basically have 4 icons across the bottom like the iphone. To me it looks so unsymmetrical, are users able to put more icons across the bottom or stuck with the four icons?
> >
>

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I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no SIM card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried syncing with iTunes but no go.

1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a provider before I can do anything

2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still work or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card

Thanks
This is my first Apple phone

Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.

You should be able to use the phone without a SIM. I haven't tried it on i4 but I have used iPhone, 3G, and 3GS phones without sims.

Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected words).

On Dec 5, 2010, at 19:36, "ClaudeL" <claudalfa@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no SIM card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried syncing with iTunes but no go.
>
> 1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a provider before I can do anything
>
> 2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still work or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card
>
>
> Thanks
> This is my first Apple phone
>
> Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

I have never heard of an iPhone not working when it left the store. In the
U.S. this is always the case.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> You should be able to use the phone without a SIM. I haven't tried it on i4
> but I have used iPhone, 3G, and 3GS phones without sims.
>
> Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected words).
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 19:36, "ClaudeL" <claudalfa@yahoo.com<claudalfa%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no SIM
> card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried syncing
> with iTunes but no go.
> >
> > 1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a provider
> before I can do anything
> >
> > 2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still work
> or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > This is my first Apple phone
> >
> > Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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I am getting message
No SIM Card installed
Insert a valid SIM with no PIN lock to activate phone

Thanks

Claude
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Brent <flapdoodle@...> wrote:
>
> I have never heard of an iPhone not working when it left the store. In the
> U.S. this is always the case.
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You should be able to use the phone without a SIM. I haven't tried it on i4
> > but I have used iPhone, 3G, and 3GS phones without sims.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected words).
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2010, at 19:36, "ClaudeL" <claudalfa@...<claudalfa%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no SIM
> > card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried syncing
> > with iTunes but no go.
> > >
> > > 1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a provider
> > before I can do anything
> > >
> > > 2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still work
> > or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > This is my first Apple phone
> > >
> > > Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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>

Right to activate the phone, but you can still use everything but the actual
phone (make/receive calls) - I think Canada sells the phones unlocked and
lets you choose carrier but I thought that the Apple Store would let you
choose a carrier and set it up for you before you leave. If buy an iPhone
in the store or have it delivered to you in the states it comes with an AT&T
SIM card in it and is activated when you turn it on.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 19:51, ClaudeL <claudalfa@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I am getting message
> No SIM Card installed
> Insert a valid SIM with no PIN lock to activate phone
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Claude
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Brent <flapdoodle@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have never heard of an iPhone not working when it left the store. In
> the
> > U.S. this is always the case.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You should be able to use the phone without a SIM. I haven't tried it
> on i4
> > > but I have used iPhone, 3G, and 3GS phones without sims.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected words).
> > >
> > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 19:36, "ClaudeL" <claudalfa@...<claudalfa%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no
> SIM
> > > card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried
> syncing
> > > with iTunes but no go.
> > > >
> > > > 1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a
> provider
> > > before I can do anything
> > > >
> > > > 2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still
> work
> > > or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > This is my first Apple phone
> > > >
> > > > Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Yes if you buy from Apple it is unlocked and you have a choice of carrier, and they all have there own SIM card

I will get a carrier to set it up tomorrow and see after if I can make it work without a SIM card

Thanks
At least now I know that nothing is wrong with my phone, or myself

Claude
Quebec Canada

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
>
> Right to activate the phone, but you can still use everything but the actual
> phone (make/receive calls) - I think Canada sells the phones unlocked and
> lets you choose carrier but I thought that the Apple Store would let you
> choose a carrier and set it up for you before you leave. If buy an iPhone
> in the store or have it delivered to you in the states it comes with an AT&T
> SIM card in it and is activated when you turn it on.
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 19:51, ClaudeL <claudalfa@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am getting message
> > No SIM Card installed
> > Insert a valid SIM with no PIN lock to activate phone
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Claude
> > --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Brent <flapdoodle@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have never heard of an iPhone not working when it left the store. In
> > the
> > > U.S. this is always the case.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@>wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You should be able to use the phone without a SIM. I haven't tried it
> > on i4
> > > > but I have used iPhone, 3G, and 3GS phones without sims.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone (please excuse incorrect auto-corrected words).
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 19:36, "ClaudeL" <claudalfa@<claudalfa%
> > 40yahoo.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just purchased my iPhone 4 from Apple store today It came with no
> > SIM
> > > > card so until I get one, I cannot do anything with my phone I tried
> > syncing
> > > > with iTunes but no go.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st Am I right thinking that I need to get SIM service from a
> > provider
> > > > before I can do anything
> > > > >
> > > > > 2nd When the SIM card expire will the WIFI part of the iPhone still
> > work
> > > > or do I need to have an uptodate SIM card
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > This is my first Apple phone
> > > > >
> > > > > Moderator Note: The poster is in Canada.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have started having the same problem about 4 or 5 days ago. -I do NOT have a password -i keep just hitting cancel but it is annoying. I wonder what's up?